From: Mirmak, Michael
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:04 AM
To: 'Alexander, Mark'; 'Angulo, John'; 'Chitwood, Sam'; 'Colin Warwick';
'Dodd, Ian'; 'Girardi, Antonio '; 'Green, Lynne'; 'Huq, Syed'; 'Istvan
Novak'; 'Katja Koller'; Muranyi, Arpad; Pandit, Vishram S; Powell, Jon
N; 'Ross, Bob'; 'sanjeev_gupta@agilent.com'; 'Varma, Ambrish'; 'Vinu
Arumugham'; 'Wang, Lance'; 'Wolff, Randy R. '; 'Wu, Shangli'; 'Yang,
Zhiping'
Subject: IBIS Cookbook/Futures Task Group Feb. 16 Minutes and Feb. 23
Agenda

(though the meeting has passed, here are the minutes from two
 weeks ago and the agenda from last week)

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IBIS FUTURES/COOKBOOK TASK GROUP MEETING MINUTES
Date: February 16, 2006

http://www.eda.org/ibis/futures/
http://www.eda.org/ibis/cookbook/

Attendees:
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Cisco Systems           - Syed Huq
Green Streak Programs   - Lynne Green
Intel                   - Michael Mirmak, Arpad Muranyi
Mentor Graphics         - John Angulo
Micron                  - Randy Wolff
Teraspeed               - Bob Ross

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Next Meeting:
Thursday, February 23, 2006
9 AM - 10 AM US Pacific Time 


               Telephone     Bridge   Passcode
              916-356-2663     3      624-7522

Agenda:

9:00 - 9:10 AM     Opens
                  
9:10 - 9:55 AM     IBIS 4.2 Timeline/Content Review

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During Opens, Lynne noted that, in the ICM-IBIS presentation from 
Michael two weeks ago, only digital ports in the backup of presentation.

Arpad stated that he will chat on BIRD 97/98 in Munich at DATE.  

Michael called for comments on BIRD102.  Both Lynne/John suggested that
an extension of the file names to 40 characters should not be tool 
problem.

Michael reviewed the list of BIRDs and BUGs outstanding.  John stated
that he can help with development/parser fixes after next week. Michael
reviewed 4 BUGs that can be fixed easily in the next release.  For BIRDs,
parser changes are required for 
- BIRD102 (filename)
- BIRD93.1 (signal name)
- BIRD100.2 (parameter passing, language changes)

5 BUGs remain for the IBIS 5.0 parser.  Bob suggested that these BUGs
plus a complete "rewrite from scratch" should be parser bid options.

Michael made some brief notes on ICM-IBIS linking.
Assumptions include:
- [Pin Mapping] remains, and must be complete
- ICM assumes pin names on one side and arbitrary node names on the
  other
- all native IBIS pins are 1-1 mapped, including [External Model]
- Circuit Call permits anything
- rail connections are unambiguous if 1-1 mapping is assumed

John suggested that [Pin Mapping] isn't needed for simple IBIS cases,
under 3.2/4.0.  When one pair of power/ground pins is used, these are 
associated with the available models by tools automatically, without
the need for explicit connections.

Michael inquired what happens with 5 V tolerant buffer with only one power, 
and one ground is created?  Bob suggested that these must be called
out explicitly.

Michael also noted that a nodal path is required for S-parameter support
No tree path descriptions can be supported.  Arpad suggested that
this technical limitation should be researched and removed, if possible.