From owner-ibis Wed Jul 1 13:36:08 1998 Received: from gatekeeper2.nsc.com (natsemi3-bh.nsc.com [205.227.60.66]) by server.eda.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA22364 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gatekeeper2.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id NAA03990 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:32:35 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi3-bh.nsc.com via smap (3.2) id xma003892; Wed, 1 Jul 98 13:32:29 -0700 Received: from rockie.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA28037 for ibis-users@vhdl.org; Wed, 1 Jul 98 13:32:28 -0700 Received: from kural by rockie (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA05871; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:34:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:34:54 -0700 From: huq@rockie.nsc.com (Syed Huq) Message-Id: <199807012034.NAA05871@rockie> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org Subject: Linux executable for s2ibis2 IBISfans, A Linux executable of the s2ibis2_fix version has been placed in the IBIS website http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/s2ibis/s2ibis2_v1.1/ This is an ELF binary and will run on Linux. Thanks to Alan Glaser of NCSU for his help. Regards, Syed. National Semiconductor Corp. From owner-ibis Thu Jul 2 04:02:25 1998 Received: from fl51mail.space.honeywell.com (fl51mail.space.honeywell.com [130.181.12.102]) by server.eda.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id EAA24098 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 04:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fl51m03.space.honeywell.com by fl51mail.space.honeywell.com with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA29203; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:09:24 -0400 Received: by fl51m03.space.honeywell.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:59:00 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Peterson, James F (FL51)" To: ibis-users@vhdl.org Subject: s2ibis2 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:57:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Is there a s2ibis2 utility that can run on PCs(Win 95)? I can't seem get the unix version to work with our HSPICE (it seems to be packaged inside one of our CAE tools and won't come out at the command line). Thanks, Jim Peterson jfpeterson@space.honeywell.com Honeywell, Space Systems Division, M/S 934-5 13350 US 19 N., Clearwater, FL, 34624 813-539-2719 From owner-ibis Thu Jul 2 11:09:53 1998 Received: from natsemi3-bh.nsc.com (natsemi3-bh.nsc.com [205.227.60.66]) by server.eda.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA25132 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi3-bh.nsc.com (8.8.8/8.6.11) id OAA03857; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nsc.nsc.com(139.187.81.1) by natsemi3-bh.nsc.com via smap (4.1) id xma003415; Thu, 2 Jul 98 14:02:26 -0400 Received: from rockie.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA15733 for ibis-users@vhdl.org; Thu, 2 Jul 98 11:04:18 -0700 Received: from kural by rockie (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA09018; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:06:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:06:44 -0700 From: huq@rockie.nsc.com (Syed Huq) Message-Id: <199807021806.LAA09018@rockie> To: ibis-users@vhdl.org, jfpeterson@space.honeywell.com Subject: Re: s2ibis2 Jim, There is a PC version of s2ibis2 and it will run on Linux. I am not aware of any Windoze version. I also routinely run s2ibis2 on HSPICE (UNIX)without any problems. What sort of error do you get running on HSPICE(UNIX) ? Regards, Syed. National Semiconductor Corp. > From owner-ibis@server.eda.org Thu Jul 2 04:15:25 1998 > From: "Peterson, James F (FL51)" > To: ibis-users@vhdl.org > Subject: s2ibis2 > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:57:54 -0400 > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Is there a s2ibis2 utility that can run on PCs(Win 95)? I can't seem get > the unix version to work with our HSPICE (it seems to be packaged inside > one of our CAE tools and won't come out at the command line). > Thanks, > Jim Peterson > jfpeterson@space.honeywell.com > Honeywell, Space Systems Division, M/S 934-5 > 13350 US 19 N., Clearwater, FL, 34624 > 813-539-2719 > > From owner-ibis Thu Jul 2 15:49:52 1998 Received: from mailhost.avanticorp.com (root@mailhost.avanticorp.com [207.220.204.13]) by server.eda.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA25528 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arcs100.svd.avanticorp.com (root@arcs100.svd.avanticorp.com [172.16.0.170]) by mailhost.avanticorp.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA25575; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iris.svd.avanticorp.com (iris.svd.avanticorp.com [172.16.5.78]) by arcs100.svd.avanticorp.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA02860; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iris.svd.avanticorp.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA02994; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:46:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:46:35 -0700 From: nikolai@avanticorp.com (Nikolai Bannov) Message-Id: <199807022246.PAA02994@iris.svd.avanticorp.com> To: jfpeterson@space.honeywell.com Subject: Re: s2ibis2 Cc: ibis-users@vhdl.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Hi Jim: I talked to people who build and package hspice. There is no such bundling of hspice which prevent you from running it from a command line on a unix platform. Possibly you run a script which invokes actual executable. To use s2ibis2, you need to call actual executable. You have to locate it on your machine. One more thing. The script does: setenv META_FLEX 1 if you run executable directly, you may need to set it manually. Nikolai Bannov nikolai@avanticorp.com :-) From owner-ibis@server.eda.org Thu Jul 2 05:36 PDT 1998 :-) From: "Peterson, James F (FL51)" :-) To: ibis-users@vhdl.org :-) Subject: s2ibis2 :-) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:57:54 -0400 :-) Mime-Version: 1.0 :-) :-) Is there a s2ibis2 utility that can run on PCs(Win 95)? I can't seem get :-) the unix version to work with our HSPICE (it seems to be packaged inside :-) one of our CAE tools and won't come out at the command line). :-) Thanks, :-) Jim Peterson :-) jfpeterson@space.honeywell.com :-) Honeywell, Space Systems Division, M/S 934-5 :-) 13350 US 19 N., Clearwater, FL, 34624 :-) 813-539-2719 :-) :-) From owner-ibis Mon Jul 6 11:47:52 1998 Received: from ganymede.or.intel.com (ganymede.or.intel.com [134.134.248.3]) by server.eda.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA01946; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ichips-jf.jf.intel.com (ichips-jf.jf.intel.com [134.134.50.200]) by ganymede.or.intel.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13769; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:44:17 GMT Received: from xtg801 (xtg801.pdx.intel.com [134.134.120.169]) by ichips-jf.jf.intel.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12486; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ichips.intel.com by xtg801 (8.8.8/WW2.1 (Jones Farm)) id LAA12537; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807061844.LAA12537@xtg801> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0delta 6/3/97 To: ibis@eda.org, ibis-users@eda.org Subject: IBIS version 3.1 out for review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 11:44:15 -0700 From: Stephen Peters Hello All: The proposed version 3.1 of the EIA IBIS specification is now available for review. To obtain a copy, FTP to eda.org, go to the directory /pub/ibis/wip, then download the file ver3_1.ibs. This document contains the text of IBIS version 3.1 as will be voted on at the next IBIS open forum meeting on July 17th. All comments regarding the proposed specification should be directed to Stephen Peters (IBIS open forum Vice-chair) at sjpeters@ichips.intel.com. Best Regards, Stephen Peters Intel Corp. Vice-Chair, EIA IBIS Open Forum From owner-ibis Thu Jul 9 09:49:08 1998 Received: from wile.nesa.com ([204.240.29.30]) by server.eda.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA11360 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by wile.nesa.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04755; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:07:26 -0400 Received: from porky.nesa.com(204.240.29.45) by wile.nesa.com via smap (V1.3) id sma004750; Thu Jul 9 12:07:05 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980709120657.00f63f50@mail.nesa.com> X-Sender: breda@mail.nesa.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 12:06:57 -0400 To: ibis-users@eda.org From: Kathy Breda Subject: IBIS User Group Minutes - June 25, 1998 meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" ***Minutes of the IBIS Users Group Meeting held at Stratus on Thursday, June 25, 1998*** NEXT Meeting: Date: Thursday, August 20, 1998 Time: 3:00 PM Place: Stratus, Marlboro, MA Thanks to Bruce Heilbrunn of Stratus for hosting the June meeting. We are in the process of setting up a conference phone link for those who are interested in calling into the meetings. Details to follow. We are taking the month of July off and will get back together in late August. We plan on hosting an IBIS Summit during PCB-East in mid October (15th) and also providing an IBIS two hour tutorial at that time as well. We'd be very interested in hearing feedback on the type of IBIS information you would be interested in learning about. The summit will be held in the Marlborough Massachusetts area - Stratus has indicated interest in letting us use their beautiful, new amphitheater for the meeting. Agenda of June 25th meeting: * IBIS education curriculum * Update on Connector Modeling BIRD * Accuracy Specification and Test Board Update Education: Ed Sayre and Joe Socha are working up an education curriculum. We would like to use it for the IBIS tutorial at the IBIS Summit in October. IBIS Accuracy Sub-Committee The IBIS Accuracy specification is moving along well. The Sub-Committee has been meeting regularly to discuss the specification and has been focusing on the required measurements and the measurement techniques. The subcommittee has decided to specify which measurements to make on a given I/O buffer, but not which buffers to measure on a given IC. There are three measurement categories, IV curves, Test load waveforms, and capacitance (frequency and time domain). The capacitance measurement is the most difficult to make due to fixturing. Regarding measurement techniques for IV Curves, sweep far enough to turn on the clamp diodes when they exist. Sweep farther if no diodes exist, but do not exceed absolute maximum current, as cooking the parts is not good! Compute the cable IR drop and use a 4-point probe or another cable if the voltage is big enough relative to your swing. Team decided that the specification should include a drawing and description on how to use the 4-point probe. Connector Models Sub-Committee Two members have been added to the group: Mark Gailus and Michael Khusid, Teradyne Kellee Crisafulli, of HyperLynx reported the Connector Models Sub-committee progress at the IBIS summit meeting at DAC. Since he has had experience writing IBIS BIRDs Kellee will be writing the Connector Model BIRD. The Sub-committee has 1 hr conference calls every other week. The following items have been agreed to by the Connector Sub-Committee: *The model will have several L, C sections connected in series *The matrices in each section will be the same size *They are adding a value defining maximum bandwidth of the connector. Connector vendors will define the minimum slew rate that the connector is useable. The software will flag users - if any driver on the network going through the connector has a slew rate below minimum, then the user will be flagged. *The model can be created from 2D, 3D solvers or measurements *The group is discussing whether to include sliding matrices - smaller matrices that can be re-used across the board. looking for input! *The model will consist of Tline model sections, similar to wline model from HSPICE where you define ground on each end of the connector *The model will support fixed return path in the connector (shield) and defining n+1 node as return within the model. If it is just pins, it will pick a pin(s) plane. From owner-ibis Mon Jul 13 13:33:07 1998 Received: from ganymede.or.intel.com (ganymede.or.intel.com [134.134.248.3]) by server.eda.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA18263 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ichips-jf.jf.intel.com (ichips-jf.jf.intel.com [134.134.50.200]) by ganymede.or.intel.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14202 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:29:28 GMT Received: from xtg801.pdx.intel.com (xtg801.pdx.intel.com [134.134.120.169]) by ichips-jf.jf.intel.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA24224 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ichips.intel.com by xtg801.pdx.intel.com (8.8.8/WW2.2 (Jones Farm)) id NAA08662; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807132029.NAA08662@xtg801.pdx.intel.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0delta 6/3/97 To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: ask for your kind help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:29:26 -0700 From: Stephen Peters -- forwared From: #WANG YING# Subject: ask for your kind help Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:24:32 +0800 Dear Sir: How are you! I am sorry for troubling you. I am a postgraduate student in Singapore. For my research, I only need some IBIS model data with more than two VT waveform tables for rising edge( or falling edge). I search many IBIS models on net, but I can only find IBIS model with no more than two VT tables. If you know some web address which provide IBIS model with more than two VT tables, may I trouble you to tell me? Thank you very much! Best Regards, Wang Ying E-mail Add: p143278083@ntu.edu.sg ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-ibis Fri Jul 17 02:09:31 1998 Received: from gwsmtp.thomson.fr (gwsmtp.thomson.fr [195.101.37.140]) by server.eda.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA29045 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:09:21 -0700 (PDT) From: BENOIT.B.M.MEYNIEL@rcm.thomson-csf.com X-Internal-ID: 35A393870001353B Received: from thomplex.thomson-csf.com (200.3.2.3) by gwsmtp.thomson.fr (NPlex 2.0.098) for ibis-users@vhdl.org; 17 Jul 1998 11:08:43 +0100 Received: by thomplex.thomson-csf.com (NPlex 2.0.112); Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:15:00 +0100 X400-Received: by mta THOMPLEX in /PRMD=THOMSON/ADMD=ATLAS/C=FR; relayed; 17 Jul 1998 11:15:00 +0100 X400-Received: by mta BIGMAN.MUASY in /PRMD=THOMSON/ADMD=ATLAS/C=FR; relayed; 17 Jul 1998 10:07:18 +0000 X400-Received: by mta BIGMANS1UAS in /PRMD=THOMSON/ADMD=ATLAS/C=FR; relayed; 17 Jul 1998 10:07:18 +0000 To: huq@rockie.nsc.com, ibis-users@vhdl.org, jfpeterson@space.honeywell.com Subject: RE : Re: s2ibis2 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=THOMSON/ADMD=ATLAS/C=FR;1618071117071998/A50245/BIGMAN] Message-Id: <1618071117071998/A50245/BIGMAN/11C78AC71100@MHS> In-Reply-To: <199807021806.LAA09018arockie@MHS> Date: 17 Jul 1998 10:07:25 +0000 Importance: normal Autoforwarded: false Jim, There is a windows 95 version of SPICE2IBIS available on the HyperLynx WebSite. Benoit MEYNIEL (THOMSON RCM FRANCE) From owner-ibis Fri Jul 31 14:56:05 1998 Received: from hood.latticesemi.com (hood.latticesemi.com [208.151.232.8]) by server.eda.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA07030 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clarity.latticesemi.com (mushroom.latticesemi.com [208.151.232.18]) by hood.latticesemi.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA22742 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from broccoli (broccoli.latticesemi.com [192.168.9.22]) by clarity.latticesemi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13915 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdouglas by broccoli; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/01Jul97-1102PM) id AA13464; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:51:44 -0700 Message-Id: <35C23CEC.3DCBD8A8@latticesemi.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:53:48 -0700 From: "Brent C. Douglas" Organization: Lattice Semiconductor Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Please add me to the ibis-users list. Thanks, Brent Douglas